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Dateline May 19 2005 ------- Dateline Carbon 31k BP
Skeletal remains from 6 individuals 2 males and 2 females and 2 undetermined were found at the Mladek site in the Czech Republic more than a century ago. They have now been carbon 14 dated at 31,000 years before present.
Neanderthals are supposed to have disappeared about 28k years before present.
Some of these remains appear to have both Neanderthal and sapiens features. As might be expected there is a controversy over this. Fred Smith, an Anthropologist at Loyal University of Chicago is reported as saying "Many of us feel that there is evidence of some contribution of Neanderthals to this early modern gene pool." It would appear that some of the skulls bear evidence of the Neanderthal structure at the rear and also have heavy brow ridges.
The research team was lead by Eva Wild of the University of Vienna and also contained Erik Trinkus.
Reports were contained in Washington Post of May 19, 2005, and National Geographic News of the same date.
Comment 1 : It is suggested that some or all of the remains are Cromagnon, ie early modern sapiens. I would suggest that it may well be that Cromagnon actually either derived from an evolving and adapting Neanderthal or from interbreeding with our out of Africa Erectus. This is why I have consistently avoided the use of the Cromagnon word in the propositions.
Comment 2: In the Washington Post article Trinkus is quoted as saying "My answer is, why not (interbreeding)? They were all dirty and smelly, and didn't have much opportunity" (for social activity).
At first I thought it unworthy of the Neanderthals who had managed to survive the harshest environment for 100,000 years. Then the thought occurred that you could say much the same for all Europeans in some cases even into the 20th century AD.
Within mammals smell is a high level communication system. Olfactory identification is for infants often a matter of life and death. In mating civitone, musk and the synthetic exaltalide are sex attractants. Indeed few if any female perfumes are successfully sold without one of these ingredients. It is interesting to note that boar taint from pigs appears to also be a sex attractants for females. I would therefore propose that amongst early humans this could have been a factor acting in favour of interbreeding. To this I would add the research which has indicated that many rapists and sex offecders have been shown to be olfactoraly hypersensitive to the pheremones (unit of smell message) produced by human females at ovulation. It is said by some to account for the high incidence of pregnancy amongst rape victims. Without going further into this olfactory argument at this point which would understandably not entered the reckoning of those concerned with non aromatic bones I will again propose that there was a high likelihood of intermarriage. Lets give these magnificent sentient beings the dignity of the term marriage.
Dateline October 29th 1999
Sources Science Daily & Proceedings of National Academy of Science, Washington University St. Lois.
Carbon Dating shows Neanderthals were at Vindija Cave in Croatia in the Balkans up to 28k BP. The dating moves the previous last defined remains from 34k years BP. Fred Smith paleontologist supports the idea of genetic exchange. there being plenty of time for interchange.
The Vindija site supports my contention in the Neanderthal Pages that at least some would more likely have moved North that the Mediterranean would not have been as comfortable for them. So with the Iberian evidence of children of intermarriage and that of the Mladek site then cohabitation and intermarriage could have taken place over thousands of years.
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